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Mauna Loa is a Volcano
(Part of the How to Talk to a Climate Sceptic guide)
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posted by coby @ 3/16/2006 08:06:00 PM
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At March 18, 2006 4:51 PM,
Michael Tobis said…
Claiming the trend is due to the volcano, even ignoring all other lines of evidence, requires an argument that the volcano's activity is steadily increasing.
Nonsensical pseudoskeptics often confuse quantities, fluxes, and flux trends. You'd think people who don't understand first semester calculus would refrain from talking about science, but apparently not.
At March 22, 2006 1:59 AM,
Unknown said…
You are assuming they took first year calc. This is a mistake in many if not most cases.
At December 07, 2006 9:01 AM,
Anonymous said…
I am a convinced climate sceptic, but I think you had better wipe out this item
At December 07, 2006 4:16 PM,
coby said…
I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
At February 02, 2007 6:01 PM,
Anonymous said…
Yes, it's true, Mauna Loa is an active volcano, in fact it's the biggest volcano on earth! So, Charles Keeling didn't know that? Well, yes, he did. And using subtle scientific indicators like "wind direction" he was even able to ensure that his readings were not contaminated by any outgassing when it was occuring.
But, ok, let's throw out Mauna Loa. There are dozens of other ........
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Since there are only a dozen or so, then it wouldn't be too much to ask for the raw data.
By the way. All the wind in the world won't stop the dispersion of Carbon Dioxide upwind, nomatter how fast the wind is blowing. IT IS CONTAMINATED EVEN IF IT IS UPWIND! Read up on gas theory in physics.
And when we are talking about a few Parts per Million, this is a critical little detail that you guys think we will just ignore.
At February 02, 2007 6:09 PM,
coby said…
I already gave you a url for the mauna loa data. You can find the data for ten sites in the SIO air sampling network here (including mauna loa):
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/co2/sio-keel.htm. Don't get distracted by the pretty picture, you have to click a few well labeled links to get the data.
At February 20, 2007 2:57 AM,
Anonymous said…
I already gave you a url for the mauna loa data. You can find the data for ten sites in the SIO air sampling network here (including mauna loa):
http://cdiac.esd.ornl.gov/trends/co2/sio-keel.htm. Don't get distracted by the pretty picture, you have to click a few well labeled links to get the data.
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Kinetic Theory of Gases: A Brief Review
http://galileo.phys.virginia.edu/classes/
...252/kinetic_theory.html
Even at room temperatures gas molecules travel faster then the speed of sound, so it doesn't matter what direction in the wind you are spitting into. Your going to get some hocker on your face.
The Mauna_Loa data is hopelessly contaminated. All it shows is that the volcano(s) in the Hawaiin Islands are spewing out more CO2. Volcanoes tend to do that, spew CO2.
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