A Few Things Ill Considered

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Thursday, June 28, 2007

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What is CO2's Relationship to Temperature?

I just had a reader ask me this via email:

Hi Coby,

I'd like to know what models assume with regard to the relationship between radiation transmission through CO2 and its concentration in the atmosphere. Is it a linear decrease with ppm, exponential?

A sceptic website makes a big issue of this, on the grounds that a 10% (say) increase in CO2 will not produce a 10% decrease in transmission.

Thanks


Since I took the time to write a detailed answer I thought I would post it here as well:

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Hi Ted

This is actually correct. The relationship between CO2 and temperature rise (all other factors and feedbacks aside) is a logarithmic one not linear. This is not an assumption of model code or a parameter that is set, it is the output of model runs and is based on the laws of the physics of radiative gases as represented in the models.

The standard metric used to discuss CO2 and its effect on the climate is called "climate sensitivity" to CO2. Currently models are all clustered around a 3oC sensitivity per doubling, with figures from 2 to 4 all within the 95% probability range. So adding 280ppm to pre-industrial levels we would expect a 3oC increase in temperature. To get an additional 3oC warming (if this is the correct sensitivity figure) we would need to add 560ppm more, 3 more degrees requires 1120 more ppm etc. This relationship changes at extremely high CO2 and also at extremely low CO2 but it does apply to all conceivable contemporary scenarios.

Climate sensitivity to CO2 includes H2O feedback and sea ice albedo feedback, both positive, but it does not include ice sheet response which is considered too slow to include. Nor does it seperately include carbon cycle feedbacks. That is to say the figure is for a doubling regardless of source so if for example humankind does add an additional 280 ppm CO2 to the atmosphere and 3oC is correct we still may incur greater warming if carbon comes out of melting permafrost and/or suboceanic methane clathrates, both likely occurences.

Hope that helps!
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2 Comments:

  • At July 01, 2007 1:06 PM, Blogger Jack R. said…

    Realclimate.org has two excellent articles on the relationship between atmospheric temperature and CO2 concentration. They were posted on 6/26/07, and titled "A Saturated Gassy Argument". Not being an atmospheric scientist, I found them very informative, and useful in dealing with skeptics.

     
  • At July 02, 2007 2:15 AM, Anonymous Dave said…

    Hi,


    Firstly let me say thank you for running your site, its kept me up to date on events.

    I have found an article on www.uranium-stocks.net about the possible effects of global warming on nuclear power plants, which might be of interest to you and your readers

    http://www.uranium-stocks.net/rising-sea-levels-to-endanger-nuclear-future/

    Its called Rising Sea Levels To Endanger Nuclear Future? and is well worth a read. I am sure the people at the site will be happy for you to publish it on your site, as there work is published on many other sites.


    Best Wishes


    Dave

     

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